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Old 03-10-2014, 03:50 PM   #1
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Default Nissan GTR OE Caliper Replacement to RB

Front View:



Top view:

Hold down springs: OE uses a spring that only holds down one side of the pads. RB uses one stainless steel hold down spring.
RB Advantage: Our stainless steel hold down spring is more rigid and applies pressure across the pads evenly to prevent any unwanted movement.

Center bolts: OE’s two hollow M8 center bolts vs RB’s solid 13mm hex head M10 bolt.

RB Advantage: Need to work only one bolt and it allows user to torque the bolts from the front rather than from the back to make pad changes easier and get you back on the road quicker.

Pad bolts: OE’s punch type vs. RB’s M8 bolt threaded bolt.



RB Advantage: Easy for pad replacement w/o having to punch out and in (from the back). Bolts are secured by torque not by feeling and will never loosen up or create rattling noise like OE.

Rear View:


OE has left or right brake fluid connection vs. RB’s center connection
OE has a center support vs. RB’s without

RB Advantage: Provides more uniform flow and distribution of brake fluid regardless if it’s for left or right installation.
RB Advantage: We eliminate this unnecessary support for quicker dismount and installation, and also saving the trouble in dealing with OE’s fragile mounting bolts that easily break.

Bottom View:


OE: 36.7mm Groove width (un-machined) vs. RB’s 40mm (fully machined)
RB Advantage: Extra allowance for thicker rotors or pads, w/o causing interference due to rotor flex.


Side View:


RB has wider body frame than OE that provides better rigidity and strength

Body Wall Thickness:

OE's 10.36mm vs. RB’s 13.4mm
RB Advantage: Better strength and rigidity

Inside View:


OE dust boots vs RB dust seals: OE uses external dust boots vs RB's internal dust seals.

RB Advantage: Internal dust seals do not burn up as easily or as frequently as OE dust boots resulting in less maintenance, downtime, and overall cost.

Pistons: OE two piece vs. RB's stainless steel vented one piece

RB Advantage: Stainless steel transfers less heat and vents allow for better air circulation and also reduces heat contact area.

Lastly how the body comes together:

OE: Mono Block - Usually from Casting (volume production) or cut from billet (short run) Like Alcon’s kit.

RB: Non compromised Forged body, two halves are bolted together with 6 each high strength grade 12.9 alloy steel bolts.
RB advantage: Highest possible strength and rigidity a caliper can ever get, with forged 7075-T6 aluminum alloy vs. OE’s 6061 casting

This picture shows where RB's extra 1.5 lbs weight is coming from (6 each assembly bolts and 4x pad springs+8 screws)



These 4 corner pad springs will ensure the brake pads are held snugly inside the caliper with proper tension and provide smooth movement as the pad gets wear. OE calipers only with machine surface with loose fit and often rock inside the caliper and result in loss of braking efficiency and/or "knock back" like some mfgers claimed it's normal.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:39 AM   #2
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http://www.gtrlife.com/forums/topic/...40#entry865302

Nissan said they had a special spec of the Brembo CCM for the SpecV. They only sold a total of 55 cars, and they no longer sell the SpecV. However they do offer the upgrade.

From a few years ago, the prices were fairly out there.

Pad Kit, Disc Brake ................ JPY 2,000,000 ($20,453)
Rotor&Pad Kit, Disc Brake .. JPY 4,700,000 ($48,064)
Caliper Kit, Disc Brake Fr RH JPY 320,000 ($3,272)
Caliper Kit, Disc Brake Fr LH. JPY 320,000 ($3,272)
Caliper Kit, Disc Brake Rr RH JPY 240,000 ($2,454)
Caliper Kit, Disc Brake Rr LH JPY 240,000 ($2,454)
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:46 AM   #3
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Alcon's BBK sells for $14,200

The Alcon GT-R Super Kit has the largest brake caliper, rotor, and pad upgrade available for the GT-R, with the front rotors having a massive 15.75 x 1.42 (400mm x 36mm) size, and the rear rotors coming in at 15.16 x 1.30 (385mm x 33mm.)



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Old 03-17-2014, 06:48 AM   #4
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Alcon CCX Carbon Ceramic Super Kit Nissan GT-R R35 $35,000

400mm front ventilated, cross-drilled CCX discs mounted to stainless steel bells
385mm rear ventilated, cross-drilled CCX discs mounted to stainless steel bells
New 6-piston, monobloc billet front calipers fitted with Alcon CCX-1 pads
6-piston, monobloc billet rear calipers fitted with Alcon CCX-1 pads
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:00 PM   #6
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One of the things we do differently from others in this BBK development is the selection of brake pads, for example Alcon although is 6-piton caliper but the pad is much smaller than OE and is not a standard FMSI. Stoptech maximum rotor size seems only go up to 380mm, and their rotor friction surface is also small comparing to GT-R's 65mm, may be someone can confirm the brake pad used in their kit.

Don't get me wrong both, and other popular brands like AP, Endless etc. are all respectful brands, but RB brakes are uniquely (especially for GT-R) designed and built without compromise, by using the most up-to-date brake components and technology, as an example we use the stock brake pads for iron rotor package, but for CMM rotor package, we will use ZR1 pad.

We want to further prove to GT-R community that every brake offer from RB, from the smaller component to the complete system has a better value in price, performance and durability comparing to others, although only a few dealer carry our products as we are relatively unknown. But I also believe most GT-R owners are more intelligent than other communities, so our efforts will be paid off.

Every component in this system is made by us with our own tooling, metallurgy & compound, from the seal/piston inside the caliper to rotor & pad. So we can assume the total compatibility and performance, while you can evaluate the total performance on our kit comparing to what you have experienced, from stock set up to all kind of brake upgrades you have done to your GT-R.

As Shawn indicated, if later on you want to use out the residual value of your existing parts, simply put them on to the system.* RB kit will allow you the flexibility to continue expanding for a higher level of braking power, including the use of the 20mm brake pads if necessary, or down size to 390mm or 380mm rotors.

*except the rear BBK rotor hat which we have to change the offset in order to adapt our 4-piston caliper to the OE upright.
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:01 PM   #7
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7racer, on 17 Mar 2014 - 11:22 AM, said:

I would prefer calipers only if possible
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I hope my explanation above help you understand why we want sell only the kits. In your case after you spent more money "buying just the calipers" and if the performance still not the way you like, how would you pin point and turn to; CMM rotor supplier?, pad supplier or us, and how can you assure next fix will do it.

This is the flexibility our RB kits is all about. Upon purchase our complete kit, you can run our kit, set your own bench mark and replace, rotors/pads to your liking, compare the performance difference with different set up.

We will offer two size of calipers (like OE) so two BBK will be offered:

1. 400mm BBK for 08-11 brakes (allow you to down size to 390mm or stock 380mm). These models use 10mm spacer.

2. 400mm BBK for 2012+ brakes (allow you to down size to stock 390mm rotor). These models use 5mm spacer.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:59 PM   #8
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We will be offering three kits:

1. 380x34mm for 09-11 @$5270

2. 390x34mm for 2012+ @$5700

3. 400x34mm for 2009+ @$6325
  • RB Two-piece open slot center-mount rotors (Interchangeable with stock rotors)
  • 6-Piston aluminum (forged 7075-T6) calipers (Direct bolt-on)
  • RB Street performance (ET series) brake pads (Same shape as stock pads)
  • Stainless steel brake lines
  • M12x1.5 alloy steel mounting bolts
The calipers allows customer to use a thicker (36mm) rotor, or a thicker pad (19.5mm) w/34mm rotor for endurance race, which we can make both available.

We are now accepting orders with 6-8 week leadtime.
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Old 03-21-2014, 06:04 PM   #9
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Hard Anodizing Finish:


Red Powder Coating Finish:
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:01 AM   #10
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Old 03-29-2014, 08:06 AM   #11
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Default WGP Apex CCM Brake Kit

Here are the specs on our kit, which we've called the "WGP Apex CCM Brake Kit"

4 Corvette ZR-1 CCM Brake Rotors 394mm Front, 380mm Rear
Endless Front and Rear Brake Pads MA45B (W007) for track use, W008 for street use, optional Pagid RSX1 or RS29 pads
Endless Brake Fluid
Custom CNC Machined Front and Rear Rotor Hats (retains use of rear parking brake)
Custom CNC Machined 5mm Caliper Relocation Brackets (For 09-11 CBA)
Stainless Steel Brake Lines
Machined Calipers Core Exchange Available
Modified Rear Caliper Backing Plates Core Exchange Available

Optional (but RECOMMENDED FOR CIRCUIT USE) - Revosport Active Cooling Carbon Fiber Front Lip w/ Rotor Backing Plates and Ductwork

Total Price for the kit : USD $10,750 w/o the Revosport Lip.

With RevoSport Lip : $12,995.
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Old 03-29-2014, 08:11 AM   #12
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Default Here are pictures of the modifications to the rear backing plates and to the calipers

http://www.gtrheritage.com/topic/105...it/#entry12192
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Old 03-29-2014, 02:46 PM   #13
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Default GM Genuine ZR1 Corvette C6 05-13

$5,799 Complete ZR1 Brake upgrade for C6 (05-13)

http://www.corvettemods.com/product....FYqIfgodL00AJQ

Replace your worn 05-13 C6 Corvette Brake rotors and take the step toward world class brake performance with an upgrade to state of the art C6 ZR1 Brake engineering and performance.

When GM re-released the ZR1, it did so with a slew of performance and safety upgrades that assured the C6 ZR1's place as the top performer in Corvette's fabled history to that date. The new ZR1 employed massive monoblock six piston front and four piston rear calipers for unsurpassed clamping force. Sourced directly from GM, our C6 Corvette OE ZR1 Brake ceramic rotors are a perfect replacement for worn or damaged originals.

Kit Includes:

Front and Rear Rotors
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Old 03-29-2014, 02:56 PM   #14
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CCM Rotor advantage:

No fading
- Wet effectiveness
- No thermal deflection
- Consistent pedal travel
- No corrosion
- Increased rotor life
- No thermal cracks
- Reduction of mass
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:37 AM   #15
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Default Caliper Installation

RB calipers fit into uprights just like OE calipers except RB caliper installation is more straight forward and less confusing.

Installing OE calipers involves dealing with two different mounting bolt sizes (11 & 12mm) and two different caliper mounting holes (12.2 & 13.4mm). When installing RB calipers you will be able to securely torque down calipers without having to "hold down the brake pedal for alignment" as instructed by Nissan.

RB calipers will provide an installation procedure that is commonly known to us in addition to easy access for maintenance and pad replacement.
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Old 04-15-2014, 04:47 PM   #16
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7075 Anodizing color:


Calipers being inspected for surface treatment:




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Old 04-21-2014, 12:39 PM   #17
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new 6 piston calipers look great!
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Old 05-01-2014, 06:33 PM   #18
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Final assembly images:





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Old 05-23-2014, 12:09 PM   #19
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Caliper Gap=70mm



Pad Gap=35mm for rotor after stock pad (17.5mm) is installed.

Since stock rotor is 30mm, so this caliper would allow you to use a 2mm thicker (19.5mm) pad - Same thickness as our front caliper pad for extra thermal capacity and longevity.



Caliper Groove Width=37mm

More cooling clearance for stock rotor, also enough room reserved for future CCM rotor (34mm).



Alignment Check

To assure all components are assembled correctly and the caliper is lined up properly with the rotor in centering & height. This caliper is specially designed to have the same offset as OE caliper, with a spacer for direct bolt on installation to the OE spindle. (Bolts included in the kit)



Hydro Test

Our routine and final check point to assure the proper functioning of pistons/seals and for a leakage free operation.

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Old 05-23-2014, 05:46 PM   #20
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Default Front Brake Line Improvement

OE Caliper Brake Fluid Inlet Connector

In stead of standard through thread hole, it has a male seat which requires the brake line connecting end to have a female seat to mate. During installation the seat can potentially get damaged. If that happens for sure it will not be an easy repair.



Typical Connector with Female Seat




OE Brake Line Set Up


The left block connects to a rigid line that connecting to caliper with one of these female seat connector. Anyone works on the their brake job should know how delicate it is to hang to caliper w/o worrying to bend or kink those rigid line.



RB Caliper Uses Standard Banjo Connector with M10x1.0 Through Hole



Caliper Assembled w/Standard Banjo Bolts with Two Copper Crush Washer

This is an almost goof proof installation, by just tightening the banjo bolts, and the oil is sealed from leakage via two flat crush washers vs. OE's seat to seat sealing which is more prone to mis-installation causing the damage the seats.



RB Brake Line Layout

It eliminates one block, and also eliminate the rigid line that connecting to caliper. Less parts, less connections, simpler and easier for installation and future brake jobs.



Illustrations Showing How RB Brake Line System Works After Install.

Left side connects to rigid line.



Flex Line Direct to Caliper

No more rigid line to bend or kink as you remove the caliper. (Same set up can be built for OE calipers)

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