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Old 04-18-2015, 03:38 PM   #1
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Default How to determine when to replace CCM rotor ring

Use Ferrari F458 front CCM rotor as an example, our recommendation is to physically measure/check the rotors after track usages to monitor the min weight (6016 grams) and thickness (35.5mm).

When the rotor is new it weighs 6116 grams @36mm, so with a min wt of 6016 g the wearing allowance is 100 grams (3.5 ounces), and 35.5mm whichever comes first.


Rotor weight in grams:



Rotor weight in lbs:



This physical inspection is the same practice by most ZR1 track drivers, they all replace their rotors based on when they reach minimum weight.

Another way is to observe the rotor surface as wearing indicator once the outer ceramic coating wears down, what you will see is a more pronounced surface pitting (it almost starts to look like worm wood) from the exposed carbon fibers on the rotor surface oxidizing, and turning into dust which then leaves a void, which is also why as rotors wear you start to see accelerated pad wear because the rotor surface starts becoming more abrasive.

See below picture for a typical rotor surface with worn out sign (under weight).

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Old 04-18-2015, 03:43 PM   #2
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Here are some pictures showing the separate components and assembly weight.

ZR1 Front

Front Disc:


Front Hat:


Front Hardware:


Total Front Assembly:


Front Min Wt:


ZR1 Rear

Rear Disc (380x34)


Rear Hat:


Rear Hardware:


Rear Total Assembly:


Rear Min Wt:



C7 ZR1 Rear

Rear Disc:


Rear Hat:


Rear Hardware:


Total Rear Assembly:


Rear Min Wt:
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Old 04-18-2015, 04:38 PM   #3
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From above weight table we can observe the weight lose allowance is actually related to the rotor "Volume" (size of rotor), meaning the larger the rotor the more weight loss is allowed.

Front is about 100 grams, rear is about 63 grams.

If based on bare disc wt. (no rotor hat):

C6 ZR1 Front: 97/4,938 = 1.96% (~2%)
C6 ZR1 Rear: 62/4,174 = 1.49% (~1.5%)

Above weight loss ratio shows no correlation to the disc original weight? Also due to after usage, the drill holes are filled with brake debris - most of them are very hard to remove, so in our opinion, the weight check is in reality not reliable nor is practical.

So we recommend it's better to inspect the rotor with visual examination on rotor surface for its integrity than weight measurement.
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Old 04-20-2015, 06:18 AM   #4
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How much are those weight loss allowance?

Front: 100 grams ~2.5 sets of those hardware.

Rear: 63 grams ~1.5 sets of hardware.
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Old 09-14-2015, 04:02 PM   #5
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Default How to determine the minium weight with RB hats

Illustration of how to figure out the minimum weight of a CCM rotor after replacing RB light weight hats.

Let's use Z06 ZR1 rear rotor (380x34mm) as an example:

OE assembly with stainless steel hats:
Rotor min wt: 7,230 gram
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Hat wt: 3,136
Hardware wt: 400
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Total hat and hardware wt: 3,536g

In comparison, here are RB's hat and hardware wt:

Hat wt: 1,360g
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Hardware: 302g

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Total hat and hardware wt: 1,662g



Weight difference between OE and RB = 3,536-1,662=1,874g

Therefore the minimum wt assembled with RB hats/hardware = 7,230-1,874=5,356 g (11.81 lbs) vs. OE's 7,230g (15.94 lbs)

Above calculation is based on w/o factoring in the brake debris that would usually clogged up the drill holes, which in essence can increase the rotor weight, so we suggest don't just rely on this weight info - visual inspection on rotor surface conditions plus actual measurement of rotor thickness is always the best practice.
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Old 10-10-2016, 02:52 AM   #6
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Reliability of weight check is in question.

If based on bare disc wt. (no rotor hat):
C6 ZR1 Front: 97/4,938 = 1.96% (~2%)
C6 ZR1 Rear: 62/4,174 = 1.49% (~1.5%)
Above weight loss ratio shows no correlation to the disc original weight? Also due to after usage, the drill holes are filled with brake debris - most of them are very hard to remove, so in our opinion, the weight check is in reality not reliable nor is practical.

So we recommend it's better to inspect the rotor with visual examination on rotor surface for its integrity than weight measurement.
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